You've discovered my secret. All this time I've been wearing a trenchcoat over my oily black feathers, and a fedora over my bald, baby-from-Eraserhead noggin, hoping no one would notice. Do you know how hard it is to type when you don't have fingers?
I know what you mean, but I don't think it's exclusive to bloggers, just people in general.
I think much is in the intention of the writer. If it is primarily to inform, that seems more honourable to me, after all as humans we are curious and like to hear and learn new things. Conversely, if we approach it in a paparazzi-style, I have less tolerance and respect for that. It seems far more predatory and to an extent ruthless.
Obviously, we have limited control over how this is seen and interpreted by the reader. We can guide them through our words, but this process can still be subjective.
Ah yes, that story has really been overdone hasn't it? But then that occurrence is nothing new, other 'celebrities' have been deified by the press when they die...
What was weird for me was when the whole Steve Irwin thing happened around the same time my mum died.
It would anger me to hear people talk about how horrible his death was and how saddened they were, while me and my family were going through some hard and real stuff of our own. They didn't even know the guy and it seemd kind of insensitive and shallow. He was even on the cover of the newspaper where Mum's funeral notice was published. Of course his death was a tragedy, but do we really need to know so much about it? Same for ANS.
In hindsight, I guess some people need to experience death and grief in a way that is so remote its almost stylised. I can't begrudge them that, but I guess I find people's obsession with celebrity a bit hard to swallow in the first place, whether death is involved or not.
I'm sorry to hear about your mum. I think a parallel between your mum's death and Steve Irwin's would be a hard one to endure, especially having him on the front page of the same paper. That is particularly hard. I think that the media has deified Irwin and it is rather hard to swallow. All deaths are hard and sad, just because he was a celebrity it doesn't make his more important. I'm not saying that is necessarily what the media is saying, but the amount of exposure such stories gain is so high it almost feels like that.
I can relate to what you are saying because when my sister died I learnt a lot about how society, individuals (including friends and family) perceive and act around death. It can be isolating and infuriating...to say the least. At times I felt like the only people that could understand how I felt were people that had experienced death (obviously not wishing that event on them). Yet at the same time I was resentful that people ignored me, changed the subject and assumed I would 'get over it'. You don't get over it, you learn to live with it. I'm feeling angry again and it's been seven years.
The buzzardly nature of the press and society in general angered me at the time but I suppose I'm pretty numb to it now. My views haven't really changed (I've always found the need to pick over the death of celebrities kind of uncomfortable) but now I suppose I have an insight into the other side of it. I feel I can understand and tolerate it better, even though it sickens me, and I can't completely excuse myself because I do take some interest in these celebrity deaths; they're so pervasive it's kind of hard not to.
Sorry to hear about your sister. I know things can resurface but you've got to remember that your pain is yours and that's actually a precious thing. I know it can feel alientating, but I guess we can be thankful that the death of our loved ones isn't front page news and we can deal with it in peace.
Actually, that reminds me of when a freind had his mum going through cancer at the same time as Delta was going throuoguh hers. They'd already given Gooodrem the green light for surviving, but everyone was like, oh delta you're so brave, and I just thought, why? Cos you're famous?
That reminds me of Henry Rollins's spoken word show in Brisbane a few years ago. I didn't go, but heard something about Rollins being mystified about the big deal that was made out of Kylie Minogue's breast cancer, and the media being so focussed on 'one caucasion tit.'
Sorry for taking so long to reply. Thanks for what you said about my sister and the grief being mine. It's funny because I have really been feeling that lately. I had a beautiful experience on Friday when I decided that I wanted to write a card to her and stepped into a newsagent that was playing our favourite Smiths song. I realised that I was feeling unusually peaceful about her death and yes, it was okay (I spent a lot of time thinking it wasn't ok, trying to make sense of her death and my reactions). I did blubber a bit but I thought that was okay, it was The Smiths after all
Like you said, I'm glad it's not our lives that are plastered all over the media and each action being scrutinised and watched. At least we have privacy. The whole celebrity thing is perplexing at times, and yes telly does have a lot to do with it.
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You've discovered my secret. All this time I've been wearing a trenchcoat over my oily black feathers, and a fedora over my bald, baby-from-Eraserhead noggin, hoping no one would notice. Do you know how hard it is to type when you don't have fingers?
I know what you mean, but I don't think it's exclusive to bloggers, just people in general.
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Snipers morel ike in, in Aus Newspapers.
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Obviously, we have limited control over how this is seen and interpreted by the reader. We can guide them through our words, but this process can still be subjective.
Interesting topic, Brenton...
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But yeah, if it's to say something that needs to be put out there, or even done badly with good intentions then it's not so vulture-y i guess.
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What was weird for me was when the whole Steve Irwin thing happened around the same time my mum died.
It would anger me to hear people talk about how horrible his death was and how saddened they were, while me and my family were going through some hard and real stuff of our own. They didn't even know the guy and it seemd kind of insensitive and shallow. He was even on the cover of the newspaper where Mum's funeral notice was published. Of course his death was a tragedy, but do we really need to know so much about it? Same for ANS.
In hindsight, I guess some people need to experience death and grief in a way that is so remote its almost stylised. I can't begrudge them that, but I guess I find people's obsession with celebrity a bit hard to swallow in the first place, whether death is involved or not.
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I'm sorry to hear about your mum. I think a parallel between your mum's death and Steve Irwin's would be a hard one to endure, especially having him on the front page of the same paper. That is particularly hard. I think that the media has deified Irwin and it is rather hard to swallow. All deaths are hard and sad, just because he was a celebrity it doesn't make his more important. I'm not saying that is necessarily what the media is saying, but the amount of exposure such stories gain is so high it almost feels like that.
I can relate to what you are saying because when my sister died I learnt a lot about how society, individuals (including friends and family) perceive and act around death. It can be isolating and infuriating...to say the least. At times I felt like the only people that could understand how I felt were people that had experienced death (obviously not wishing that event on them). Yet at the same time I was resentful that people ignored me, changed the subject and assumed I would 'get over it'. You don't get over it, you learn to live with it. I'm feeling angry again and it's been seven years.
Best wishes to you and your family,
Tracy
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The buzzardly nature of the press and society in general angered me at the time but I suppose I'm pretty numb to it now. My views haven't really changed (I've always found the need to pick over the death of celebrities kind of uncomfortable) but now I suppose I have an insight into the other side of it. I feel I can understand and tolerate it better, even though it sickens me, and I can't completely excuse myself because I do take some interest in these celebrity deaths; they're so pervasive it's kind of hard not to.
Sorry to hear about your sister. I know things can resurface but you've got to remember that your pain is yours and that's actually a precious thing. I know it can feel alientating, but I guess we can be thankful that the death of our loved ones isn't front page news and we can deal with it in peace.
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His mum survived BTW
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That reminds me of Henry Rollins's spoken word show in Brisbane a few years ago. I didn't go, but heard something about Rollins being mystified about the big deal that was made out of Kylie Minogue's breast cancer, and the media being so focussed on 'one caucasion tit.'
I blame TV (for everything).
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Sorry for taking so long to reply. Thanks for what you said about my sister and the grief being mine. It's funny because I have really been feeling that lately. I had a beautiful experience on Friday when I decided that I wanted to write a card to her and stepped into a newsagent that was playing our favourite Smiths song. I realised that I was feeling unusually peaceful about her death and yes, it was okay (I spent a lot of time thinking it wasn't ok, trying to make sense of her death and my reactions). I did blubber a bit but I thought that was okay, it was The Smiths after all
Like you said, I'm glad it's not our lives that are plastered all over the media and each action being scrutinised and watched. At least we have privacy. The whole celebrity thing is perplexing at times, and yes telly does have a lot to do with it.
Tracy